[Koko]

Heyy thanks a lot! I wonder how many people do what you do... (listen but don't comment, shame on you!!! :lol: kidding, naturally)

And yeah it's real hard to get the kick drum to sound cause I forgot where I had panned it :lol: And even if I remembered I doubt it would have sounded much better...

About the end of the song, I usually do some tricks like strum on the muted strings real hard or something :lol: Don't know why but I just don't really care about the final three seconds of the songs

But hey your comment is highly appreciated

[mightyjhon]

^ WHy don't you use a compressor for the kick drums?, and so it'll have more presence

[Koko]

Hmmmh I did compress it.. But I think that the conflict comes with the panning thingys :lol: I probably have the kick drum and the guitar or something coming from the exact same place--> sounds like shit.

[mightyjhon]

Mmmm the panning eh?

I don't like to pann the kick drums, I just let it in the center, and the bass alike. Don't know, that's one of my standards

[ThoNohT]

Koko, on Feb 4 2010, 02:19 PM, said:

Don't know why but I just don't really care about the final three seconds of the songs

Well, in my opinion that's a bad habit. The final three seconds are some of the most important seconds, that is, for people that listen to the whole song. For in the end, the last thing you will hear is the end, and this is what will stay with you most clearly. If the whole song is awesome, but the end screws that up, my whole appraisal for that song will get a sudden drop. Now in my case, that would probably not mean I won't listen to the song anymore, but rather just fix the end myself, unless the 'badness' of the song is not due to a badly edited song, but because the music there is ugly

But in your case, it is obviously not as bad as that, but when listening to it with headphones or earplugs, which I do now while at work, you hear this very clear difference for the left and right channel. And in the end, all it takes is one final edit of the entire wave file, which can also be done in the master phase, (though getting all tracks to end correctly in the first place is recommended, if you are lazy, just fixing the end afterward will also work). Zoom in on the end, see when the first track ends, delete everything from the other track after the end of the first track, and then add a small fadeout to both tracks, and voila, it is fixed (This is what I would do in this case, of course some songs have long fadeouts, or sudden stops, they require different approaches, but I am sure you know how to do that).

[Aresius]

The kick drum should most often be in the middle, but a nice tip is to fade the bass like 5 to the left or right. In that way the kick drum will have more place to take, and therefore sound more.

[Koko]

Wow. Thanks for all these tips I'll be sure to implement them to me next song. Stay tuned!

[mightyjhon]

Aresius, on Feb 5 2010, 06:02 AM, said:

The kick drum should most often be in the middle, but a nice tip is to fade the bass like 5 to the left or right. In that way the kick drum will have more place to take, and therefore sound more.

Mmmmm maybe I should try that aswell, because what I do is to compress both the kick and the bass, and then change their volume in the mix, so I try to create the effect that the bass sounds a bit drummy, don't know if you get me

[Koko]

HEYHEY. Guess who's back.

Ironic that right after you complimented me for being real productive, I'm silent for like two months :D

But it's the bad side of having someone do the singing for you....

But without further ado, I've got a new song out there and I'd really love comments!

http://www.soundclic...&songID=8986968

[mightyjhon]

Wow man, the production is great, the guitars sound very clear, a little better distortion would be cool imo. However, I can't hear the snare in some parts

Once again I can't get any word of it but the song is actually very enjoyable

Btw, you're still the most productive, I haven't posted anything here in about 2 years

[Koko]

Thanks dude I made like 13 different versions of this song... And the lack of distortion is probably cause of my guitar's microphones Not the best ones..

Haha, still the most productive.. Well, thanks. It just frustrates me a huge lot when you have something 100% ready but the vocals haven't been recorded... And that goes on for like 2 months...

Thanks, still

[mightyjhon]

^ I know, I have something 99% ready, and I still have to record vocals ( Yeah, I've got one song with lyrics, but was a friend of mine who came up with them)

[Aresius]

The kick drum sounds way too big and bassy imo. And I agree about the snare almost not being there.
The guitar sounds are getting better for each song.

its a great song. Real catchy as usual


Nice wth some harmonies on the vocals.

[Koko]

Hehe guess I was a little obsessed with getting the bass there.. And thanks to you the guitar sounds are getting better

For the next song I think I'll borrow a better guitar...

Thanks a lot

[Koko]

The moment has come.... A NEW SONG!!

This one is a little bit happier than my usual ones (excluding Jolly Pirate...) Vocals done by Oliver Briny.

The song is called "Ei Mitään Kauniimpaa"

http://www.soundclic...&songID=9216461

Please tell me what you think

[Black_Sheep]

Not my style at all, but i liked the melodies very much. And you definetly have the ability to write really good songs.


...But the vocals ruined this song for me, it's not that they were bad, but the way they were recorded/mixed, they were too loud, and on top of everything else.

[Koko]

Thanks a lot, you humble me :')

And yeah I do agree about the vocals.. But according to the singer they are still not loud enough :D VOCAL SUPREMACY!!!!! Don't understand.

[Aresius]

Totally agree about the vocals being way too loud. But at some points its very low lol. A compressor on the vocals would be nice.

And the drums... Well, its EZ, what can I say. Im so tired of those sounds, cause I use them all the time aswell

Pretty nice song, and catchy again. ^^

I like the disco drum beat at some places.

Youre starting to become a real good songwriter man. Eurovision next? lol

Good work!

[Koko]

Nice to see that so many agree about the vocal levels :') that'll show him.

Thanks man, always nice to hear.


...and Eurovision would be cool :D: hehe

[mightyjhon]

Finally I hear your new stuff

catchy as always, I'm not into this sort of genres very much lately, but this is surely good , the solo was very cool, nice playing. The vocals are indeed a bit too loud (and still I cannot get any word)...(oh wait, I do, the first word of the tittle means "No" right? ).

Still wanting to hear xtreme stuff from you (and from me :S lol )

[Koko]

Hehe you're correct. The first word is "no"

Once again I thank you for your comment Sorry for the delay in acknowledging it tho. Been rather busy cause I'm gonna leave to defend my country on monday...

[mightyjhon]

Ohh, Then I wish you luck in your journey young knight

[LorenzoGarbanzo]

Good luck to you, my friend's service starts on Monday as well.

...but from what are you gonna defend us? T3h C0v3n4nt?

[mightyjhon]

from Grendel and his mother!